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I've been working on an accessible s2 style for awhile, but I've been stymied by both the s2 lack of documentation and by the coding environment. I be happy to talk to somebody about what I've been doing; with some handholding, I'm happy to do the style work myself. | I've been working on an accessible s2 style for awhile, but I've been stymied by both the s2 lack of documentation and by the coding environment. I be happy to talk to somebody about what I've been doing; with some handholding, I'm happy to do the style work myself. | ||
[[User:Jadelennox|Jadelennox]] 14:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC) | [[User:Jadelennox|Jadelennox]] 14:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
Jade - I'll contact you and give you the down and dirty. [[User:Aveleh|Aveleh]] 16:09, 4 February 2009 (UTC)! | Jade - I'll contact you and give you the down and dirty. [[User:Aveleh|Aveleh]] 16:09, 4 February 2009 (UTC)! | ||
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| + | == CSS-hidden alternative text == | ||
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| + | Maybe I'm being thick headed, but I don't understand this. Using CSS to hide text alternatives for what specific purpose? Maybe including an example here would help, because this sounds like something that needs to be addressed by the developer of the tools "which can't use alt text for that". Is this a common problem? I'm not a blind user. I'm just hoping to understand this problem better. --[[User:Textish|Textish]] 01:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
| + | : (should we move this to the discussion page?) It's a keyboard control thing, not a blind accessibility thing. Actually, users with visual-impairment screen readers won't have an issue with this one, because those screen readers will correctly let you select alt text to go to image-only links. The problem is if you do your computer control entirely by the keyboard,and certain functionality is only accessible via image links, there needs to be a way to access the image links via the keyboard. Obviously, the correct way to do this is in the browser: Firefox does it right; Opera doesn't do it but has an open bug ticket; Internet Explorer doesn't do it and probably never will because Microsoft hates disabled people; I have no idea about Safari. But CSS-hidden textual links will allow keyboard access to those image-only controls on browsers which don't otherwise give access via alt text. Hiding them via CSS makes it invisible to anyone who doesn't want to see them. This isn't necessary on all functions, but for one style which gets as much accessibility functionality as possible crammed in there it would be awfully nice. --[[User:Jadelennox|Jadelennox]] 01:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 03:33, 17 February 2009
accessible styles
I've been working on an accessible s2 style for awhile, but I've been stymied by both the s2 lack of documentation and by the coding environment. I be happy to talk to somebody about what I've been doing; with some handholding, I'm happy to do the style work myself. Jadelennox 14:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Jade - I'll contact you and give you the down and dirty. Aveleh 16:09, 4 February 2009 (UTC)!
Maybe I'm being thick headed, but I don't understand this. Using CSS to hide text alternatives for what specific purpose? Maybe including an example here would help, because this sounds like something that needs to be addressed by the developer of the tools "which can't use alt text for that". Is this a common problem? I'm not a blind user. I'm just hoping to understand this problem better. --Textish 01:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- (should we move this to the discussion page?) It's a keyboard control thing, not a blind accessibility thing. Actually, users with visual-impairment screen readers won't have an issue with this one, because those screen readers will correctly let you select alt text to go to image-only links. The problem is if you do your computer control entirely by the keyboard,and certain functionality is only accessible via image links, there needs to be a way to access the image links via the keyboard. Obviously, the correct way to do this is in the browser: Firefox does it right; Opera doesn't do it but has an open bug ticket; Internet Explorer doesn't do it and probably never will because Microsoft hates disabled people; I have no idea about Safari. But CSS-hidden textual links will allow keyboard access to those image-only controls on browsers which don't otherwise give access via alt text. Hiding them via CSS makes it invisible to anyone who doesn't want to see them. This isn't necessary on all functions, but for one style which gets as much accessibility functionality as possible crammed in there it would be awfully nice. --Jadelennox 01:37, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
